Yup, time fo' SONIKKU!!!

Personally, I don't mind Sonic's recent games. Shadow the Hedgehog was fun, and... actually, other than Adventure/Adventure 2, that's all I've played.

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But, yeah, he does need a reboot. BUT HOW!? TUNE IN NEXT TIME!

pikaby wrote:

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(that was before I found out he was the(o(kiest game character on Earth). 

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Yeah. Where've you been??

I think it's the fandom's fault, really. Sega still think that spitting out half-finished games year after year will turn a profit - BECAUSE IT DOES. Sega doesn't need to try. The only way we can see an improvement is to put Sega into a "sink-or-swim" position; either make a good game or watch it die.

Also, I've been reading recently, and one argument has struck me. SONIC SHOULDN'T BE FAST. The classic games were not about speed. They were about gaining speed. Sonic is, honestly, a very slow and heavy character that works with inertia and has a high top speed. Sega hasn't been able to capture this with the 3D games, and when they do, I imagine quality will start to climb.

Agreed entirely with both of you. Sega just needs to get their sh*t together because they're really giving themselves a bad name. Hell, even Atari has managed to produce a good game every once in a while.

Some companies should just die. Atari did have Panzer Dragoon for Xbox though, that was amazing.

Wait, I didn't know the Xbox Panzer Dragoon was made by Atari :?

Sega can keep on living, but Sonic can stay in the 80's where he's considered some kind of retro cool

*waits for Overthinker Ep.22, supposedly with moar Sonic*

ALRIGHTY THEN! MY THOUGHTS!

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Let's start off with gameplay. Generally, they should MAKE THE MOST OUT OF THEIR LEVELS. Like, let's say Stage 1 is, oh, I dunno, Green Hill Zone. VERY BIG stage. Lots of rivers and hills and bridges and all that. Depth, beauty, ridges, everything. But then? Allow for MULTIPLE CHARACTER TO GO THROUGH IT. Like in Sonic Adventure - that beach place, y'know?

So, when you play as Sonic, you just get to the end really fast. Build up speed slowly - like moviebob and a bunch of other people have said. Get to the end, go on to the next level.

But how 'bout we add in Tails? He's much slower. His gameplay focuses more on exploration. He can't fight very well. Kinda stealthy. Fly around and try to avoid your enemies. Collect tools. It's a much slower and more interested gameplay, and you can use the same exact stage.

Knuckles, too! He can climb. He can glide. He can kick ass. The slowest of the three, his portion will play like a beat-'em-up. Sonic runs past the enemies and they go boom. Tails avoids them. Knuckles PUNCHES THEM IN THE FACE. Again, same stage - a stage that would take longer to develop, yes, but you've just gotten three levels for the price of two. Mario does the same thing, placing multiple levels with multiple goals on the same chunk of rock.

Levels should be divided into chunks. Like, Green Hill Zone - Stages 1/2/3/Boss. Stuff like that. Basic.

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Alright on to the cast. The problem isn't that Sonic has too many friends - it's just that there are WAY TOO MANY RECURRING CHARACTERS. Looking at Mario again - yeah, we had E. Gadd in Luigi's Mansion, and he shows up in the Mario & Luigi games, but he's not in every installment. Rosalina was awesome in Galaxy, but am I hurting for her to show up in the next game?

Sonic has a big cast. So does Mario. Mario keeps his friends in spin-offs - do the same with Sonic. Keep the main games about Sonic along with a sidekick or two - Tails and Knuckles and Amy and Shadow and maybe some new characters. But don't drag them into every game. Keep it about Sonic.

Maybe... have Sonic go on an adventure in a new land. Introduce a lizard or something. Lizard has cool gameplay. It's a fun game. But we don't need to see the lizard ever again.

Of course, this is because Sonic requires a longer development period - one, MAYBE two core games per console. It's how all the gaming greats do it - Mario and Zelda and Metroid and Halo and Final Fantasy and what-have-you.

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Storyline? My biggest disagreement. Sonic runs fast. Eggman wants to take over the world. Sonic thinks this is a bad idea. Sonic meets up with friends and kicks some ass. Story over. Maybe add in more specific things - like, Eggman has taken control of an island somewhere and you need to overthrow him. Eggman is holding the president hostage and you need to save him. WHATEVER. Just keep things simple. The current continuity works. Scrapping it would just screw things over.

Also, on the subject of Eggman? Not threatening. Not murderous. Not out-and-out evil. To bring it back to Mario, look at Bowser. Is he evil? No. He's a bad guy. He's a CLASSIC bad guy. He and Mario fight and Bowser loses because Bowser's bad and Mario's good. The end.

Sonic should do the same thing. I like this Eggman - he's silly evil. Sonic's silly, too. Keep some tongue-in-cheek badassness. Again, Mario ('tis the best comparison) - is he badass? No! But when you beat the game with him... they give you a scene of Mario being badass.

Sonic can be that harmless badass. Like a "Smell ya later, Egg-head!" kinda guy. It's crappy but it's worked. He's laid-back and happy and nonchalant. He always fights with a smile. When other people worry, he tells them to chill.

...yeah, that's Sonic. He should be a lovable idiot.

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That's all I got. I think is good or mebbe not? Who knows.

They have tried many new things with the Sonic series, but those 'new things' are the ones that take the series out of its element. Sonic now isn't the Sonic we all knew back then, it's like a whole different series now. Unleashed and Black Knight were two such games, together with the god awful Sonic RPG for the DS.

Mario always had radically different games every console generation, but at the core it's the same, Bowser kidnaps Peach, Mario sets out to kick ass. That way Mario gets to keep his longevity. Supporting casts, like johnny said, should stay in spin-offs once their time in the main game is up. Or at the very least, cameo appearances in the subsequent games :P

Epic.

I found his comic book reference really telling, honestly.

I was like - "Oh, you're just picking on Luke Cage! He hasn't had a costume since he was Power Man! And, plus, there's a BUNCH of other black superheroes, like the Falcon, and Black Panther, and... uhh... Black Lightning... and... Black... wait, crap..."

It's a real observation on the Anglocentricism in modern society - and I doubt that'll go away any time soon. Food for thought.