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Okay, what toadster said is true. We aren't going anywhere with this. I've been mulling over what he said since I saw his topic, but I don't know if we need a theme change or not.

I've seen quite a few forums. A lot of the more active ones are for ongoing active series that keep getting new games and updates, like Phoenix Wright. Forums that cater to a series that is either dead or dying will die eventually too. And right now, Kirby isn't a very appealing game series, and mainly you can blame Nintendo for not giving it enough focus. But still. Look at Kirby's Rainbow Resort. I know I've brought this up a number of times, but I've never gone into detail before.

KRR has a ton of stuff, and we can't possibly compete with them if we don't have the means to. Even if there are no Kirby games, they can still pull new material out. We can't. We can't rip BGMs off the Kirby games and post them. We can't rip official arts, sprites, or game backgrounds. We can't record gameplay footage and upload them ourselves. We can't think of creative contests and give out some REAL incentive to paticipate in them, since our resources are limited. They have an Oekaki board and a place for people to put up their works. We're hosted on a sh1tty freewebs instead of being a full site(then again, KRR is hosted under Gamespy).

BUT. And this is a big but. Their forums. Are dead. Although they have a great diversity of members(around 2500 right now), they keep moving location, and lose members with each move. They get like only a few posts a day, and usually two or three per member. I tried contacting the guy in charge of the affiliations(Disaster Kirby), but he wasn't around(and I suspect he wasn't for some time already). Their last message board post was at the Pointless Palace(a.k.a Random), with the other sub-boards not posted in for at least a day. We should be considered lucky that we're still getting a great number of posts a day, even if they are from the same old people.

KRR makes new content themselves. They have Mailbags for members to ask the mods questions(which is then published to their site). in the forums, you have people who make Kirby fangames, draw art, write fanfics.Now, they're planning on moving the site out of Gamespy and host it under their own server because their main staff member now makes websites for a living, and has a lot of experience. They can use money to pay for servers and prizes for contests. None of us here do that, or are unable to do, or are TOO LAZY to do(this last one is a major inhibitor to our success). If we really cared about Kirby we would do anything to make the site live. Right now we're not doing anything except posting on the forums. We're doing it wrong.

Hey, we're all one bunch of friends who opened up their own place to talk to each other, basically. Expanding has and will always be difficult. Making a forum tick is NOT as easy as making a blogroll and getting a billion unique visitors a day. Not many people are dedicated to forums, and they're usually short-lived. Remember how tough it was during our time at Gamespot? We did even worse than right now.

We'll need a theme change, but I am not in favor of doing a 180 away from Kirby. If we were to expand, it would be building on what we have already achieved. The next logical step would be a Nintendo forum. It'll take a lot of convincing for me to change the name. K5Star is our home, our pride. We built this place together. We should stick to it. Our inactivity is largely cause by our own incompetence(I'm not completely blameless either).

Think about what I just said. What can YOU do to make the forums a more lively place? What can you do to make the freewebs more interesting? What can you do on other sites to attract members? Being a Kirby fan or not is irrelevant. I mean, sure, we're Kirby-centric, but to a non-Kirby fan, don't tell them about that. We have a very comprehensive Meadow forum that's just dying to be posted in. If they're a fan of anything, it can all fit into that sub-board. ALL OF IT.

A captain always goes down with his ship. And we'll do just, that, if we have to. Right now I'm in no mood to make many posts, but I hope I drove a point home here.

And I'm off.

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Well, can't say you're wrong about any of this. Wherever you want to take this site, I'm here to help. I think expanding to be a "Nintendo forum" is logical as its basically what we already are, and the main change will be in appearance. My regret comes in losing our Kirby theme. On one hand, we've had Kirby from the very beginning, and it will be painful to change that. But on the other, if a potential new member sees the name or any of our official images and has little interest in Kirby, they will likely leave. But the hardest part will be changing our name. Company themed fansites/forums/GS unions usually suffer from bland names as you can't really stylize the name too much without nodding to one particular series etc. The changes you've suggested will be difficult, but I'm with you on this.

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I agree with DG. The part that hurts is changing from Kirby to general Nintendo. I love Kirby just as much as you guys do, and it hurts to almost leave again...

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We should drop Kirby as a name, but keep him as the "mascot." Our banners should have Kirby in them. The background should have LOTS of Kirby. But he shouldn't be in the name - that turns people off.

Otherwise... I dunno. I'll mull it over.

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That sounds like a good idea to me.

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Lets start by finding a new forum. frrwebs is useless. Just forgot about it and post everything in threads on the forum. I still want a chatroom, though. It will be important.

The theme has to be something unique, that other forums do not offer. The Rockin' World of Nintendo. Something with universal appeal, that all Nintendo fans, regardless of their Kirby heritage, can enjoy. He can still be featured in discussion, artwork and media, but CANNOT be our main theme.

You know, I could tie my MKWii/Conduit clan into this, and name it Brotherhood. I can be in charge of the clan portion while pikaby manages the forums. I want the Brotherhood name to be iconic. We're more than just a forum, we're a family, who sticks together, through good times and bad. The friendship aspect is what we should emphasize on, like in the MKWii division of Brotherhood. You fools really need to get that game. It's a game EVERYBODY here can play. Brawl only supports 4 players. It's incredibley easy to master. We need to start playing SOMETHING together, and right now, MKWii seeme like our best bet. We don't need a site, however, the Brotherhood chat should be accessible to all, and should be used by all. All we need are forums and a chat room. DG can find a good forum maker, I'm sure. I'm in the Brotherhood chat every day. I'm just sick of talking about a rather dead franchise. =/

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I'm looking into phpBB right now. It has some extremely beefy features such as sub-forums, custom slimies, custom BBcode, custom profile information, avatar galleries and thread subscription, nor will it automatically censor us.

In fact, there are so many settings, its kind of sickening.

Edit: Playing around with phpBB. It seems extremely capable, my only complaint is in the insanely complex interface. This could be perfect.


-- Edited by Destiny Guy on Saturday 25th of July 2009 12:41:33 AM

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wow that's long...

So what? Is this forum going down?

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...What's long?

And I don't even know if we're moving yet (that's up to Pikaby, of course) but since Toadster handed the duty of forum-making to me, I'm looking into it.

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Well, how does my Brotherhood idea sound?

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I can't really tell what your vision for that is. How would that affect the site?

Everything else you've said sounds right.

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That sounds like false advertizing to me!

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My Wii based clan has a HUGE following. Combining the two into one big community will bring in a LOT of forum goers. This can turn be very big. The Brotherhood name represents respect, and emphasizes the importance of friendship in online gaming. If you all can get MKWii, we have "A game to play together". Tell me your thoughts.

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I have a diffferent timeline master brotherhood!

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wat

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This is serious thread.

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It is, though. Give me your thoughts DG.

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DG has Mario Kart???

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I'm skeptacle. I would want K5S (or whatever new name we'll be using) to be its own entity. So, I'd welcome Brotherhood members to K5S, but I'd be very concerned about merging the two groups.

Edit: And no, I do not have Mario Kart.


-- Edited by Destiny Guy on Saturday 25th of July 2009 01:18:02 AM

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MEH ppppptttttttttttt! Get Mario Kart!

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CRAZ, can you please focus?

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I tried asking people to join K5Star, but it didn't work. Not many Kirby fans. The forums have to be shoved down their throats. It will be it's own entity, just attatched to an already successful entity.

Get it then. It supports 12 freakin' people.

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Do you have forums already? If not, then we'll open 5-Star Forums (or whatever) and that's where your forums will be hosted and such; one little house or something beneath our, how do you say, not-as-small house.

And, yeah, no Mario Kart here either, nor any real desire to obtain it.

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Exactly. We have no forums. Brotherhood's 5 Star Forums. Something like that. It will HUGELY escalate our community.

...and get it, dammit. AT LEAST rent.

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I worry about using the word "brotherhood" because A) its debatably gender specific and B) It sounds rather exclusive.

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